Accumulation of Emails I received from a person "Shaw" about Embry Riddle
flights... starting 10/4/11
Things got alot better for awhile since my last email to you but today these guys are ramping up some noise intentionaly flying over the homes in the area even right now at 7:48pm they are doing the engine stall followed by the crackle,crackle,pop,pop VROOOOOM. Just wanted to keep you updated in case you and Ivan Grau are still trying to put down a flight path for these pilot's to follow as they are not following it makes no sense that I live next to 1000's of acres of woods between my home and where these guys take off at and they choose to fly all the way here only to stir up problems.
I realy wish these pilots would feel more responsability while they are flying to do the right thing while they are airborne and try not to effect everyone underneath them while they do there thing and I wish the school would worry a bit more about it's reputation just browsing Google.com shows these guys have alot of people angry in the Ormond Beach area I have seen and continue to see complaints and youtube video's of Embry Riddle Pilots interupting people below them without a care in the world.
And I just found this posted this month--> http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/local/east-volusia/2011/10/02/volusia-flagler-neighbors-and-airports-at-odds-over-noise.html
Sad thing is these guys are going to cause so many problems that one day laws/rules/regualtions will change that will effect all pilots because these guys can't do the right thing it should be up to each individual pilot to do the right thing and it should be up to the school to help these pilot's grow as not only pilots but as better people...they should give the students education plus help build character in a positive way.
It's sad that I could pull in front of Ivan Grau's house or any of his pilot's house and make alot of noise like with big speakers/amps etc and he has the right to call the police/sherriff to have me removed for being a disturbance to him and his family but even though I should have that same right I do not... as his pilot'still continue to disturb me and my family from a quality of life as well as safety concern's...my fiancee is trying to get to sleep right now because she has to wake up at 2AM and can't sleep because of the over exagerrated engine noise from these air planes.
Ivan you should be ashamed of yourself and embarrassed out of your mind the only reason you do not recive more complaints than you do is because most people have no clue that the pilots behind the aircrafts is Embry Riddle they probably think that some drunken yahoo is out joy riding his airplane not a flight school as I am sure most people would like to think flight schools are more reputable than they are ( I used to think they were).
I have been collecting information/evidence and I plan to take this a step further if I do not see a change I will setup flyers at our local post office,stores,library etc with information and photo's to educate the town of Pierson who is responsible for this and I will include any phone number email address that has anything to do with Embry Riddle included on these flyers so people know who to voice concern's to...not that it will make any difference but just act as stress relief.
know I have carried on and I am sorry I am just frustrated and want a stop to
this. I thankyou for everyon'e time.
I snapped a photo with my cell phone of this poor Embry Riddle Pilot who appears lost. He seems to have lost his way and continualy flys and performs his excersizes over my home and others in the area from around 5:00 pm onward. Just giving the guy the benefit of the doubt that he is lost I would like to think he is lost and doesnt know where he is going instead of him being just a flat out jerk. He seems to have engine trouble to you might want to get that plane looked at Ivan as it's making ALOT of noise for the amount of low speed it's going...doesn't sound very healthy...it couldn't possibly be the pilot of this aircraft making the plane over exagerate it's noise over homes where people are trying to live a quality of life...
Good Morning Shawn,
The picture you attached to your email shows the airplane flying at an altitude above 1000’, which is 500’ above the minimum allowed by the Federal Aviation Regulations. The pilot was not lost but just practicing maneuvers.
Ivan J. Grau
Chief Flight Instructor
Embry Riddle Aeronautical University
MY PERSONAL NOTE: Now it appears Embry Riddle has throw out the "Good Neighbor" concept and goes by the 1000 foot rule ?
Whatever the case may be with the altitudes I sure appreciate the changes for the better I have experienced the last few days. Today I noticed the aircraft were out and about performing maneuver's and they did a fine job of avoiding homes and flew at an acceptable height and they did not over exagerate the engine noise.
been nice to be able to get comfortable sleep at night and not have to worry
about safety concern's my fiancee and I appreciate it and thankyou all for the
Between the time of 9:30-9:35 AM on 10/11/2011 in Pierson,Florida an Embry Riddle pilot flew low enough directly over my home low enough to shake glassware mounted on the walls with engine noise heard over the television and over peronal conversation.
I am not sure if this was a fly by saying "hello we are here" or if this will be an all day thing but I will keep you all posted.
Last night was great another restfull peacefull night of sleep and it has been very nice I did not realize how groggy I was becoming from all the interupted sleep I was getting from all the air plane engine noise. Thankyou for correcting the night time flying issues.
I sincerly hope this pilot's flying tactics will not be continued.
you all for your time.
Good afternoon Mr. Shawn,
Thank you for your email. I researched the time you send me and yes we did have a C-172 flying in that area but the airplane never flew below 1000’ MSL.
Ivan J. Grau
Chief Flight Instructor
Embry Riddle Aeronautical University
MY PERSONAL NOTE: Now it
appears Embry Riddle has throw out the "Good Neighbor" concept and goes by the
1000 foot rule ?
From Approx 11:45 AM through 12:24 PM an Embry Riddle Pilot has been a jerk and a poor neighbor. I do not want to hear that he is somehow within legal altitudes he is flying like a jerk and no one should have to put up with it. He is flying a flight path over the homes in my neighborhood then flying off into the distance behind my house over a large fernery then righ back over the homes in the area.
If this pilot was at all trying to do the right thing and be a good neighbor he would stay in the area behind my house where there is absolutely no homes for miles...
I do not appreciate an air plane doing flight maneuvers over myhome especialy when they do not have to.....there is miles of open woods right on the other side of my property with no homes.
These pilot's will screw up one day and crash into my house or neighborhood and cause all kinds of problem's.
I have a suspicion that the same pilot all along has been causing issues over here I would hate to find out multiple pilot's are doing this. I want a meeting with this pilot just me and him. Shawn
Today was another noisy day from the Embry Riddle Air craft. I did not like seeing two of the embry riddle aircraft flying close to one another doing there excersizes as it looked very dangerous they were both to close one at a slightly higher altitude and one was lower. One of the pilots did a good job of keeping a higher altitude and staying away from homes but the other was flying a perfect patern directly over the area's homes at to low of an altitude I have also been experiencing lots of night time traffic from a flight school depriving us of sleep...can't say exactly who is doing this but it is the same type of air craft as embry riddle and whomever it is is flying in cirles all night long and not traveling anywhere so I assume it is a fligtschool...the engine sounds identical which by now I have memorized second nature.
whomever was able to get these pilot's flying on a trouble free route from
before can get these pilot's back on track. I thankyou all for your time.